[optomeb]

Is that what a wrapper tag does, where could I learn about a wrapper tag
A link to what

[Klimapol]

Your page

[optomeb]

Not at the moment no

[Klimapol]

So we can view your source

[froomzer]

Is it ok to be derogatory yet?

[optomeb]

What for
Http://www.xpalms5.made2own.com/wifitech/
See how the border is bordering the edges of the page and not the layout ?? thats because of width=100% , but how would I get it just to outline the general layout

[froomzer]

So add a silly border to the body element
Oh
Just the middle part?

[optomeb]

Ya
Just the layout
Just the design I should say

[Klimapol]

Put all that garbage in a div width: 830px; give it a border and center it

[optomeb]

Around all 4 edges

[froomzer]

Well, it would be far easier if you hadn't used tables... but add an id to the outer table and/or surround it with a div
And then just use the stuff we told you earlier

[optomeb]

So add a id tag, and then use wrapper ?
Is wrapper a selector ?

[froomzer]

Are you sure that you are the best person to be in charge of an ecommerce site?

[Klimapol]

You can also do body { width: 830px; margin: 0 auto; }

[optomeb]

Why, are you doubting my abilities ?
Thanks Klimapol

[froomzer]

Well duh
This isn't even the tough stuff

[optomeb]

This is my third ecommerce site
Im not gonna say im a know it all, but I know enough to secure myself and make everything work right php wise.

[froomzer]

But you don't even have the basic skills of web development? scary

[optomeb]

Im learning man, cant knock me for that
Mmbeer and Klimapol : I try to absorb as much info as I can, ya know, I have read books and I do know html/css pretty decently, I just get frustrated and turn to chans for help sometimes because its quicker than diagnosing the problem on my own, but for those who care, it works, and worked perfectly, thank you both.

[froomzer]

The problem is, that you obviously don't know css or html... a quick glance at your page reveals as much ;)

[optomeb]

Thats not my code
Lol